Pve fragility or poor technique?

[:1]Why can't I defeat elite dark irons in Stone Talon Mts? It's solo PvE, I'm balance, they are two levels below me but their elite butts slay me. I can get one, maybe, but why is druid so fragile, so weak in dealing damage?

Here's what I've tried. FF then roots, then shift to bear. Break out to heal. Their fire throwing weapon burns the crap out of me no matter what. I also tried bear all the way, with a FF toss first. I've tried elf form, and magic all the way, jumping to bear for protection when things got rough. I've tried moving around environment to avoid hits with flame thrower, but I just can not do enough damage, and this makes it too easy to pull another elite mob.

I'm ready to give up on druid. What am I doing wrong?
don't give up on druids, they are the bestest class in the world!

seriously though you're spec'd for balance, most of your gear is spirit/int/stam and you're trying to use bear form to kill elite mobs, which you're not really spec'd to take advantage of

look at feral tree and see what you could have used those 10 talent points to spend under feral vs what you spent under balance

i'm not saying feral > balance, i've never spec'd balance so i have no frame of reference, but you're using feral form to down elite mobs that you're not exactly geared for or spec'd for

rotation is fine, i guess. i would do roots first cause the mob is on their way while you're waiting for roots to finish casting if you did FF first

seriously though you're spec'd for balance, most of your gear is spirit/int/stam and you're trying to use bear form to kill elite mobs, which you're not really spec'd to take advantage of


rotation is fine, i guess. i would do roots first cause the mob is on their way while you're waiting for roots to finish casting if you did FF first

Agree with the first part, if you're geared and spec for balance, your bear form is gonna be horrible and not worth using unless you want to live a few more seconds without doing damage.

Also if you are going bear off the start and they have a ranged attack, don't bother rooting them, just makes them range you while you wait to melee them.
Are you talking about the Krom'gar Incinerator? If so you are attacking them wrong. They are designed for you to target and damage the oil canister on their backs. Which then blows up and kills them. Which as a druid you can easily do solo using your spells.

You are using a form to attack elite mobs that you aren't specced or geared to use and attacking those mobs in a way they were not designed to be defeated. The problem isn't the Druid class. The problem is you aren't using the Druid class correctly.

Are you talking about the Krom'gar Incinerator? If so you are attacking them wrong. They are designed for you to target and damage the oil canister on their backs. Which then blows up and kills them. Which as a druid you can easily do solo using your spells.

^^^^

Also, being balance, I'd get a cast off, then instanly root them, to get another hard hitting cast off, along with MF for a dot. I dont know much about balance, but I've played caster classes, and I know that they aggro as soon as the spell HITS the target, not while its on its way. So while its on its way, you can start casting roots and it'll be a Hit>aggro>roots in a second. Faerie fire and MF and any other instant sucks for opening up while leveling because of this. By the time you get your roots, he'll be in range because of GCD and roots cast time.

NOTE!: Abilities like starfire that drop from above, and have no pathing, dont work for this either, because the instant your casting time is over, it'll hit. So it acts like MF with a cast time. You need something that travels, like wrath.

Lets say you FF or MF a mob. He starts running at you instantly. You have to wait 1.5s GCD, then 1.5s roots cast. That gives him 3 seconds to run towards you, probably getting him in range.

Alternately(sp?), Lets say you cast Wrath on a mob. GCD doesnt apply because its already consumed while casting wrath. Immediately after you stop casting wrath, start casting roots. Wrath hits, he'll run for half a second, before getting rooted. THEN, you can cast a hard hitter like Starfire or starsurge or w/e you want, and then instant casts while you keep move back. etc etc etc.

Just my 2 cents of a good way to pull a mob!

Also, druid is a good and fun class to play! Dont give up just because of a little frustration. Again, those mobs aren't made to be killed like that :P Destroy their canister in the back and they'll blow up :)