Saturday, April 14, 2012

Question about resto druids...

[:1]Hello dear druid healers...

I am writing to grasp some info about restoration druids since I have no knowledge about them and using this alt toon to post. My main is a Disc Priest, ilvl 375. Recently, I've joined a 10man raiding guild and we've been raiding fireland content along with my fellow heal partners who happens to be a druid and shaman, however, I've been put on raid healing very often and yet the druid does all the tank healing. I am starting to get really uncomfortable with this setup as my spec isn't very keen to raid heal as I believe druids does a better job in this criteria. I've remembered signing up to be a tank healer, yet I've rarely been assigned to do so besides Alysrazor fight, which makes me feel, I should pack up and leave the guild. :(

I have rarely or close to never heard of a druid being a tank healer and I was hoping to get some answers from this forum if some of you were assigned to tank heal in preference over classes who performs better as a tank healer? I'd appreciate any responses.

-ukiyo
Even if I were asked to tank heal over, say, my disco priest in the raid, I'd say no. The only thing I can guess from your post is that your druid has been raiding with them longer and probably got to choose what he/she wanted to do. If it's so upsetting you'd opt to leave the guild over it, I'd actually suggest talking to them about it to see why they're not letting you tank heal. Druids CAN tank heal, as you've witnessed, but I think *most* of us would let a healer with a stronger main heal take care of it.
In the world of min/maxxing, you are correct. Restoration druid is better suited to heal the raid, and would benefit your raid more if you swapped roles. However, restoration druids are plenty capable of healing tanks, and discipline can raid heal well enough. Has your progression been halted at all due to healing problems? And if so, have you raised concern? If healing is fine, then it's really up to you if you'd rather give up some personal comforts/style to stick with them or not. And if you're uncomfortable raid healing as discipline, could look into speccing Holy. Holy excels at raid healing, and isn't too hard to learn/get comfortable with.

Good Luck.
I'd appreciate any responses.


Me too, as long as they're address systematically and not with vague ambiguities.

I've remembered signing up to be a tank healer, yet I've rarely been assigned to do so besides Alysrazor fight, which makes me feel, I should pack up and leave the guild. :(


You shouldn't fret, but inquire of your guildmates what it is that you're lacking to be the tank's healer.

In defense of your guildmates; it could be that that particular druid is just better suited to healing the tank, in addition to that you are best suited to be a raid healer. It is in my opinion that being a raid healer is far more challenging than simply healing a single target.

It's an important task to keep the all the other players in your raid alive, so that the druid tank healing can effectively do his job. Tank. I would conjecture that it in those particular set of circumstances in which you are playing that particular style.

The druids skills, particulary the talent Efflorescence:

Efflorescence Rank 3

Your Swiftmend spell causes healing flora to sprout beneath the target, restoring health equal to 12% of the amount healed by your Swiftmend to the three most injured targets within 8 yards, every 1 sec for 7 sec.


Will not only assist in healing the tank, but all raid members in proximity to the tank.

Which is great, because the Druid can use his swiftmend:

Swiftmend Level 85
10% of base mana 40 yd range
Instant 15 sec cooldown

Consumes a Rejuvenation or Regrowth effect on a friendly target to instantly heal the target for 5229.


To heal the tank, in addition to it benefitting everyone around the tank, and if everyone is moving in concert, and the skill is used in a timely fashion it has outstanding benefits to provide for the entire raid. Consequently making all the healers jobs easier.

Wild Growth:

Wild Growth Level 85
27% of base mana 40 yd range
Instant 8 sec cooldown

Heals up to 5 friendly party or raid members within 30 yards of the target for 3717 over 7 sec. Prioritizes healing most injured party members. The amount healed is applied quickly at first, and slows down as the Wild Growth reaches its full duration.


Is another great example, when focused on the tank, has the same benefits provided by Efflorescene (instead of a percentage heals for a fixed amount) only in a greater radius, in addition to those skills being augmented by Tree of Life:

Tree of Life
Shapeshift into the tree of life, increasing healing done by 15% and increasing your armor by 120%. In addition, some of your spells are temporarly enhanced while shapeshifted. Lasts 25 sec. 5 minute cooldown.

Enhanced spells: Lifebloom, Wild Growth, Regrowth, Entangling Roots, Thorns, Wrath



These are just a few examples of why a Restoration druid may perhaps be better suited to healing the Tank.

Perhaps someone (while I'm typing this, or later on) will be able to better clarify why Resto druids may be better suited to that particular task.

In closing, you shouldn't take it as a personal affront that you're not allowed to heal the tank. Neither should you worry yourself over what it is the class you're playing 'cannot do', but focus on what it is you 'can do'... and then do it well.
Post Script: By healing a single target, the Tank, the Druid is effectively providing heals for the entire raid, performing the task of Raid healer, and tank healer. Simultaneously. Even though the benefit provided to the raid may not be as great as the heals you in particular are able to provide for them.
Thanks for the input guys, however I do have issues raid healing in particular to having more than 2 people taking more damage that exceeds the cast time my spells yield. True anyone can raid heal, but I prefer single targets with minor spot healing. What's bothering me is the fact that the finger was pointed at me due to the incapability of keeping two people alive while I have been casting my spells. Perhaps it's some sort of coordination between healers?

I have mentioned to my officers about this situation, yet there isn't any given reason as to why the druid is favored over a disc priest as per tank heal as the druid was always favored over me :\


Thanks for the input guys, however I do have issues raid healing in particular to having more than 2 people taking more damage that exceeds the cast time my spells yield. True anyone can raid heal, but I prefer single targets with minor spot healing. What's bothering me is the fact that the finger was pointed at me due to the incapability of keeping two people alive while I have been casting my spells. Perhaps it's some sort of coordination between healers?

I have mentioned to my officers about this situation, yet there isn't any given reason as to why the druid is favored over a disc priest as per tank heal as the druid was always favored over me :\


Point them to the druid forums or any healing forums, really because they clearly have no idea wtf they're doing if they're going to blame a disc priest for not AoE healing enough whilst the druid is allowed to tank heal because that really is bass ackwards.
First off, it is a 10 man raid. Unless the fight specifically calls for it, there should be no set 'assignments.' A resto druid only healing the tank in a 10 man raid is a waste. Same with any healer.

Someone can be a 'main' healer for the tank, but that doesn't mean they don't share the blame if something happens to someone else.

For me personally, I would ALWAYS give the disc priest the tank healing "assignment," but I would keep my lifeblooms on the tank anyway. I would also expect the disc to help out with raid healing if need be, especially on high raid damage fights.

So, in conclusion, you need to ask questions. If it is an officer that is giving out the assignments, and he is not a healer, then he probably knows jack !@#$ about healing. This is the case with a lot of dps without a history of healing.

As long as you aren't actually bad, I'm sure you can convince them to change their opinions because they won't want to lose you. You also need to always consider yourself as the potential problem and try to improve what you are doing.
The nature of the druid is that they are strong raid healers, while assisting with tank healing.

That's not to say they can't tank heal, but they should be doing both.
Frankly I'd just tell your raid leader he's a moron, and the druid he's a moron. If the raid leader doesn't know the classes or the spec's well enough to assign the right healing then he needs to resign as raid leader. If the druid isn't either A. Smart enough or B. Brave enough to tell the raid leader he's better suited to raid healing, then he needs to be kicked out too. You can try to "teach" the raid leader and the druid if you are a "nice person" but me I'd just tell them both they don't know the class and find a guild that does.

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