Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Worgen Vs. Night elf for PVE

Dont give a crap about lore, just want to know people's opinions are considering racials for PVE ONLY
What spec? For a caster it might be better to be a Night Elf since in 5 mans if you pull aggro you can shadowmeld and hopefully it buys you a few seconds for the tank to get his act together.

A feral might want to go worgen though for the extra sprint, for the rare times when there is a fight with a lot of movement
Thinking about resto
Thinking about resto


caster form sprint would almost certainly take the cake there - for raiding at least.

Shadowmeld might see some use in bad 5-man PuGs.
Caster form sprint, IDK the use for that as I've never raided but I hope it may be useful.

PErsonally, I like worgen appearance better (not a twilight fan), but I don't want to gimp myself if the racials are serious enough to consider changing race over, night elfs dont look bad either just saying what I would prefer aesthetically, but wanted some input from experienced players
I don't think I could part with the Shadowmeld + Flight Form ultimate escape mechanism that NE Druids have almost everywhere. Doesn't help in arena/bg/raiding, but it's the king of all escape mechanisms out in the world.
As Dragoncat mentioned if you're seriously looking at trying to get the most out of your character in terms of PvE, then correct choice would be Worgen.
Worgen, but only if you are able to put up with the casting animations, which are beyond terrible so much so that Worgen should only really be utilized by melee classes.


Really don't get why people think this. They're better than night elf casting animations.
Solo PVE = NE, for Shadowmeld. Group PVE = Worgen, for the critz.
Male Night Elf casting animation is the worst in the game.
I thought bout switching to worgen, but as resto, there are times when new adds spawn (Anub in ToC for example) or aggro resets that having a temp aggro dump like shadowmeld comes in handy.

Plus sometimes you can survive the wipe with shadowmeld :)
And as mentioned, out in the world, shadowmeld->flightform is an awesome escape.

For pve: Feral dps and Boomkin-> worgen and Feral tank-> NE
Its a tough call for resto i think...

and if your a female NE, you'd be giving up the bounce!
I prefer worgen's bear form over ne's. I just can't seem to get over the parted sideburns though I know ne's racials have a lot more use for a dudu compared to worgen's.

leveling 2 dudus atm. need..to..make..up..my..mind.


leveling 2 dudus atm. need..to..make..up..my..mind.


What, only 2? Slacker! ;]


leveling 2 dudus atm. need..to..make..up..my..mind.


What, only 2? Slacker! ;]
I has 4 Druids. This is the only one to make it past the second zone though, too busy leveling other alts.
Well, as a healer, you'd be doing nothing with one of NE best racials: the 2% dodge. Shadowmeld is quite nice for a healer dealing with adds and/or a bad group to drop aggro. Its also very nice for soloing for hassle free afk and survival.

That said, while its always nice to have, the utility of shadowmeld goes down the better your group gets (i.e. guild runs and raids, where people are competent, your tank is good, and dps don't aggro dump on you). So it depends on if your talking about casual PvE via PUGs or organized/progression PvE.

For the latter, Worgen is going to do more for you, IMHO, with the constant 1% crit and sprint which lets you get out of hazards and reposition quickly (not to be underestimated). Plus as you've mentioned preferring the way worgen look, that's really the most important factor in choosing race, since you're stuck looking at your avatar for countless hours.

Since I place priority on progression oriented PvE, I'd say Worgen is better for Resto, Balance, and Cat. NE gets my nod for Bear tanks, although I could make an argument for Worgen there too if we're talking about an off tank/dps hybrid build.
PvE settings NE really far superior as Bear tank, everything else worgen are best.

But who cares, it's all about fun, difference are minor, I'm Healer/DPS
Well, as a healer, you'd be doing nothing with one of NE best racials: the 2% dodge. Shadowmeld is quite nice for a healer dealing with adds and/or a bad group to drop aggro. Its also very nice for soloing for hassle free afk and survival.

That said, while its always nice to have, the utility of shadowmeld goes down the better your group gets (i.e. guild runs and raids, where people are competent, your tank is good, and dps don't aggro dump on you). So it depends on if your talking about casual PvE via PUGs or organized/progression PvE.

For the latter, Worgen is going to do more for you, IMHO, with the constant 1% crit and sprint which lets you get out of hazards and reposition quickly (not to be underestimated). Plus as you've mentioned preferring the way worgen look, that's really the most important factor in choosing race, since you're stuck looking at your avatar for countless hours.

Since I place priority on progression oriented PvE, I'd say Worgen is better for Resto, Balance, and Cat. NE gets my nod for Bear tanks, although I could make an argument for Worgen there too if we're talking about an off tank/dps hybrid build.


thank you very much, good sir.
I prefer worgen's bear form over ne's. I just can't seem to get over the parted sideburns though I know ne's racials have a lot more use for a dudu compared to worgen's.

leveling 2 dudus atm. need..to..make..up..my..mind.


Holy necro, batman.

How many healing spells does a Moonkin need?

How many healing spells does a Moonkin need for soloing? I'm still using only Rejuvenation.

i used Rejuve, lifebloom, and regrowth when i could
wait...you get hit as a chicken??...when questing?....your doing it wrong, clearly, one hit per npc on you up to 3 plus a 4th that should never get near due to rooting, plus reduced damage in form, leaving combat should be all the heals you need...my baby druid is lvling as chicken for quests and i never get hitXD
Not really Xaito, balance druid is a pretty hard spec to quest as. You do have to shift out and heal yourself a lot, but use rejuve and lifebloom usually. Preemptive as well
I usually do 3x lifebloom, rejuv then immediately go back into form for the Damage reduction. That usually keeps me up unless I'm fighting more than 3 or 4 mobs.
Lifebloom does look good. I have a few levels to go for that.

10 toons and many BG's later: Druids

Overview Post:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3430810508

I've played all 10 classes and geared them up fully through bgs. After all this I've gotten a good feel for how they stack up against each other. So, how do druids stack up? It would be best to break it down into each spec:

Boomkin: Bleh is all i can say. Pretty dependent on hard casts which always hurts in pvp. The entangling roots cool down is only really good for one root, as the melee will use a cool down to push through the remaining two (AMS and blade storm as examples). I think the skill would be much more useful if it were a shorter cool down but only one charge to compensate. Boomkin is one of the more weaker specs in pvp since you can't get away as easily as you would like from melee.

Resto: I've always liked resto and how fluid it is with the large number of instant cast hots, though recently the spec feels weaker than the other healers mostly from being "squishy". On my DPS toons it feels easier to focus a druid down as opposed to the other healers (shammies and pallies especially). Resto druids feel like they need some passive damage reduction to get back on par. Just opinion on my part.

Feral: Feral is devestating. I HATE having to play against a feral druid on pretty much all my characters. The bleeds just do tons of damage and can be applied in a short amount of up time. This is included with the ability to instant cast cyclone after a finisher which can really mess up the opposition. I am nowhere near as good as i could be with my druid, but they already feel very powerful. The added ability to go bear form for good survivability is just gravy. I've defended flags in AB solo by popping cool downs and going bear far longer than i would be able to on any other class.

So to surmise resto is just a smidge under the other healers, boomkin is an unpleasant spec to play, but that isn't terrible because you can go feral which I feel is really strong

When i roar in cat form:

I hear the cry of a poor guy who seems to be imprisoned in endless fur



please....
lol
It'd be so easy to add the cat roar sound to /roar. Then again whenver I attack I roar anyways.

I have 371 ilvl and can't break 1800 haste

lol

What do Tauren Druid eat?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1601/fortheherd.jpg

They go from cows to bears, lions and a funky owl. Do they have to wait between shifts for their food to digest? Boggles the mind it does!

gnomes.


duh.
gnomes.


duh.


Not just Tauren druids, but Taurens in general eat them.
They eat Steak Sandwhiches.

Resto T12

For the love of god, give us a skirt. At least the others get to hide behind forms.

-Troll Resto Druid wearing T12 "robes".
Fix helm and shoulders first plox. they're awful.
No, I look awesome.
Ever seen a dog walk out of a vet with a bucket for a collar? thats where the inspiration for druid t12 originated.

Shoulder warts ftl.
The shoulders aren't bad. Pants suck though.